12-04-2006, 02:14 PM
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12-04-2006, 02:14 PM
Rating: (1 votes - 5.00 average) I went on craiglist a moment ago and I ran across this ad with my name in it. I'm very pissed, cuz not only are this company is goin' around scammin' people, but now once you think they can't get any lower than they already are, but now they are goin' around tryin' to slander and solder upcoming models good name.
All because some saw through there BS. Also I want to address the part of there statement that states "if you don't select them you'll be put on mymodeltalk.com/watchlist" I was selected and I had enough since to know better than to give up money, so I suggest you stop scamming and slandering and start up a legitimate business with all of the money that you have taken from innocent models and get a life!
Everything I stated was true and that's why you're so mad cuz the truth hurts, I don't have any reason to lie on scum.
To all Real Models, that is very serious about their modeling career, Beware of these low-life trouble makers on mymodelstalk.com. they bash companies and others models. They don't half to know you ,they just love's to put lies out.
If you are an companies , and you don't select them , you will be put on the mymodelstalk.com/watchlist , as a scam. If you are a models , you would be classified as a very, very bad model. My name is Tiffany Ellis,on mymodelstalk.com , i use my email address:carmel_brown06@yahoo.com. To BASH, companies with my friends. Their names are as follows, Jeree Turman-email:jreezy.homestead.com/homepage.html,Jewelk. Richardson-email:jewelrich1@yahoo.com, Adriana Hayes-email:adriana_hayes@hotmail.com, Shamane Rivers-email:shamaneia@gmail.com, Demetria Hasty-email:demetriahasty1@aol.com, Meghan , out of fla-email:meghant@speedymail.org,, and the owner of this site is , MYKKAL -AKA- MICHAELMcKOY(AGENT)ALSO THE OWNER OF FULLBLOWN ENTERTAINMENT. THESE ARE MY FRIENDS AND THIS IS WHAT WE DO BASH GOOD COMPANIES THAT DON'T SELECT MODELS. YOU CAN FIND THIS INFO ON THIS WEBSITE. EVERYTHING THAT I HAVE SAID. | carmel_brown Join Date: Oct 2006 Age: 27
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01-03-2007, 05:51 PM
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Rep Power: 0  | Agencies MUST have your social security number, as required by law. Also, if not with an agency and you freelance, any true professional job that you work is going to require your SS# as well. These companies, agency and/or client, must file 1099 as a model is working as an independent contractor. For tax purposes, I can't imagine anyone could have an agent or work for a legitimate company as a model without providing SS#. It's January and most of us in this business are busy preparing 1099's for anyone who made over $600 in the calendar year. The IRS would stomp on us if we didn't have the model's SS. In addition, people generally always enter their SS# when filling out job applications, setting up a file with a new doctor or dentist, etc.
Cases of libel and slander are considered civil and only enforceable through a civil court - meaning you have to file suit on your own. With most attorney's requiring around five grand retainer to even start such a case, even if working contingent on the outcome, it's often a crime that people can get away with and unfortunately while there is recourse, it rarely pays to attempt resolution. Quote: |
Originally Posted by mykkal never ever do that unless it's a employment proof form (I-9) document for the IRS. Or some tax forms... Quote: |
Originally Posted by carmel_brown Thank you Mykkal...the DA told me it isn't a criminal case because it wasn't they didn't post our birthdates or social security numbers...OMG...I just remembered that I filled out a app and I put my SS# on it! | | |
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01-03-2007, 07:06 PM
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#32 | | Guest | Actually Agencies don't have to have a social security number (not in GA). It depends on the business relationship. With some of the comedians I represent I have a pre-disposed contract which makes me an employer. With the others that I know well and work with every so often I book the job and they have a check sent to them straight from the client booking them. I also have a check sent to me form the client. Most clients I deal with have one or two shows per year so that isn’t an issue. Like I said it just depends on the frequency that the person gets work with me. I started doing this after my second year in business where I hand wrote MANY 1099's and prayed that their addresses were still correct. Don't have that problem now...
The reason this works for me is most of my shows are outside of GA. Therefore its beneficial for me to receive my payment up front and from the beginning. The talent is shown a check before getting on stage and given it immediately after the performance. Once the show is over I have no more obligation. Most of the comics I deal with have their own LLC or sole proprietorship so I pay them as a service and not an employee. My guys (females included) are considered independent contractors so they are responsible for reporting their earnings.
All of this depends on the state you live in and do business in. Most times I don't collect social security numbers of comics I work with because unless they are getting 3 or more shows a month from me it just isn't worth it.
In GA agents are not required to have a license but entertainment managers are (managers only).
Matter of fact I’m only filing 1099 misc on three people. And I’ve done a lot of shows with a lot of talent.
You can say I’ve got the "keep it simple" phrase down to a science. But that's because I’m running three separate entities... Quote: |
Originally Posted by austinmodelsandtalent Agencies MUST have your social security number, as required by law. Also, if not with an agency and you freelance, any true professional job that you work is going to require your SS# as well. These companies, agency and/or client, must file 1099 as a model is working as an independent contractor. For tax purposes, I can't imagine anyone could have an agent or work for a legitimate company as a model without providing SS#. It's January and most of us in this business are busy preparing 1099's for anyone who made over $600 in the calendar year. The IRS would stomp on us if we didn't have the model's SS. In addition, people generally always enter their SS# when filling out job applications, setting up a file with a new doctor or dentist, etc.
Cases of libel and slander are considered civil and only enforceable through a civil court - meaning you have to file suit on your own. With most attorney's requiring around five grand retainer to even start such a case, even if working contingent on the outcome, it's often a crime that people can get away with and unfortunately while there is recourse, it rarely pays to attempt resolution. Quote: |
Originally Posted by mykkal never ever do that unless it's a employment proof form (I-9) document for the IRS. Or some tax forms... Quote: |
Originally Posted by carmel_brown Thank you Mykkal...the DA told me it isn't a criminal case because it wasn't they didn't post our birthdates or social security numbers...OMG...I just remembered that I filled out a app and I put my SS# on it! | | | | |
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01-03-2007, 07:17 PM
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Rep Power: 0  | 1099 is Federal and isn't affected state by state, but if you're clients are paying the talent directly, then it is their worry to either remove taxes or file 1099's at the end of the year, quite true. If they're making under $600 a year, it's a non-issue. As we have very few talent that make under that in a year, I have 1099's coming out of our ears right now - we're getting a jump on early and our accountant is in-house, so we all have to see the agony of it, so to speak.  Luckily on SAG gigs, their payrolls deduct taxes before cutting checks, which are in the talent names... but come through the agency who has power of attorney to sign and deposit on them. It can quickly become an accounting nightmare. At some point, however, the model/talent has to give someone their SS# though to someone as someone has to report that as their income to Mr. Uncle Sam. I had a dentist appointment with a new dentist today and had to fill out that giant "new patient form." Had to put SS# on it. Next thing you know, they'll just barcode it to our foreheads.  |
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01-03-2007, 07:21 PM
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#34 | | Guest | Re: Definitions Well two things here:
Slander is criminal in GA. But it's so hard to prove that most times it goes to civil courts. Civil proceedings don't require someone to be 100% guilty or innocent. The risk is they don't guarantee you will be paid even if you win.
The second is I do think sites have a responsibility to tell people if another site is an authentic agency. But how do we do it? Every state is different. Some states even have no laws.
Although California has agency requirements GA doesn't so anyone with a business card can call themselves an agency (as long as they register a Sole Proprietorship, LLC, or LLP)... Florida and California differ greatly in laws... So can you imagine the infrastructure and work it would take to monitor 50 states (OMP and Musecube are international). It would be so much easier if the federal government were involved and that would still be a task because there is no central database to reference.
So with that we've got the "scams" section and the "watchlist". I don't want to censor but I do want people to communicate about their experiences. Even bad ones... A bad experience doesn't make a company fraudulent. But I think that it helps improve their service but putting them on notice that others in their demographic are talking about their practices (good and bad). That's not advocating disgruntled posts at all. We are pretty vigilant here at least to correct issues and communicate with members so it's not a problem anyways...
Seriously I think that not having communication tools like this are far more dangerous. But that's my opinion. Even if it were not on MMT it should be somewhere. Quote: |
Originally Posted by austinmodelsandtalent Slander is something that is stated verbally. I think what you are all after here is the word "libel," not slander. Libel is defined as the of stating something IN WRITING (not verbal, as in the case of “slander”) and that damages someone while knowing that what you are stating is untrue. Slander, to be awarded any damages from, requires you be able to PROVE something was stated, and then be able to PROVE financial loss as a result. Libel does not require proving any financial loss as a result of, however, you do need to prove that the person who wrote the bad information wrote it maliciously and while fully knowing that it was incorrect.
Sites, including this one, that feature "scam warnings," are dangerous, IMHO. Too many times so-called "scams" are nothing more than disgruntled chatter, especially in a business that is as vain as is modeling. When posting a message stating someone is a scam, I'd suggest the original poster have documented PROOF before subjecting themselves to a potential libel lawsuit. Libel is quite easy to win as long as there is supporting documentation and so therefore attorneys don't mind going after it, even on a contingency basis. However, as Angelus states, if the person you go after has nothing, a winning ruling doesn't do much for you in the end. As they say, "you can't get blood out of a turnip."
Judging from the above message posts, I would venture to say that someone needs a re-education in spelling and grammar, for certain. It should be a crime to mix up the English language to that extent.
Instead of posting scam warnings, would it not be more beneficial to provide tips on how to detect potential scams - what to look out for... and links to state databases listing licensed agencies so that people can check to see if who they're dealing with is legit? One should note that when looking at so-called “agency” listings on most Internet modeling sites, a major percentage of the companies listed are operating illegally and without proper bonds and licensing (as required in many states). Site owners (and I do not mean this site, but more the OMP's of the world) do not take a responsibility to protect their patrons from these things and apparently will often list any company as an “agency” so long as that company is claiming to be and/or paying the site’s monthly or yearly subscription fee. | | |
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01-03-2007, 07:25 PM
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#35 | | Guest | Actually I work with bigger names. Most of which have their own LLC. So they are paid as a service. Kind of like paying any company to do a service.
Becuase of that they actually employ themselves which means they are responsible for reporting any earnings.
Have you tried this? I'm loving it and I've felt your pain. I just don't feel it anymore... lol Quote: |
Originally Posted by austinmodelsandtalent 1099 is Federal and isn't affected state by state, but if you're clients are paying the talent directly, then it is their worry to either remove taxes or file 1099's at the end of the year, quite true. If they're making under $600 a year, it's a non-issue. As we have very few talent that make under that in a year, I have 1099's coming out of our ears right now - we're getting a jump on early and our accountant is in-house, so we all have to see the agony of it, so to speak.  Luckily on SAG gigs, their payrolls deduct taxes before cutting checks, which are in the talent names... but come through the agency who has power of attorney to sign and deposit on them. It can quickly become an accounting nightmare. At some point, however, the model/talent has to give someone their SS# though to someone as someone has to report that as their income to Mr. Uncle Sam. I had a dentist appointment with a new dentist today and had to fill out that giant "new patient form." Had to put SS# on it. Next thing you know, they'll just barcode it to our foreheads.  | | |
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